Author Topic: Premier League look abroad  (Read 3179 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

-Agurk

  • Guest
Premier League look abroad
« on: 7 February 2008, 19:22:26 »
The 20 Premier League clubs are reported to have agreed in principle to a radical plan that would see each team playing an extra match a season abroad.



Under the proposal, matches between two Premier League sides could be staged in the Far East, Australia and the USA.


The League have called a news conference for this afternoon where it is expected they will confirm they are to explore the proposal of playing games in some of the world's largest cities.



Agreed


A meeting of the 20 clubs are said to have agreed in principle to the plan. It is understood that the proposed overseas matches would not be the final fixtures of the season.


The idea would be to cash in on existing interest in the Premier League around the world, and the extra money generated from TV would be split equally among the 20 clubs.


The details of how the system would work have yet to be finalised but it would mean each club playing 39 games, with a draw to pick out each side's overseas match.


There would be a sporting criteria, such as league position, to decide which clubs play each other.


And under the proposal, points earned in the overseas game would count towards the final league position.


_______
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3117424,00.html


NOW HOW SICK IS THAT? :o Seriously.. just when we thought it couldnt become more commersial! ::)
Im an overseas supporter, but i sure as hell dont want this to happen. IT WILL TAKE EVERYTHING AWAY FROM THE GAME!!!!!  i cant believe they've agreed to it... obviously the money has taken over COMPLETELY!

This ad is not visible for members: click to register, free and no spam!

This ad is not visible for members: click to register, free and no spam!

Liverbird

  • Guest
Re: Premier League look abroad
« Reply #1 on: 7 February 2008, 19:58:44 »
It'd be good for football fans in the other countries. They get to watch an EPL match when they otherwise wouldn't be able to do so (Besides on tv).

But, I think it's a step too far. The Premier League should be played in England, as La Liga in Spain and Serie A in Italy etc...

Money is too important in football these days. I hate it! Players are paid far too much. You just have to look at recent contracts signed, I mention no names, to see that. It's crazy!

Offline toni01

  • Super Hero!!!!!
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,484
  • Gender: Female
Re: Premier League look abroad
« Reply #2 on: 7 February 2008, 20:10:50 »
I have already ranted about this in the Arsenal thread but i have decided its pointless waste of energy cause its never gonna happen! Much like the limit on foreign players or the give the 4th Champions league place to the Cup winners, this moronic idea will disappear soon enough, becuase its unworkable. Clubs may have agreed to discuss it but there is a big difference between discussing and agreeing to it, I can almost guarantee Arsenal will vote against it, cause otherwise Arsene would walk out on us in disgust. I guess for it to happen all or a majority of clubs will have to agree, and I assume Arsenal will not be the only ones opposed to the suggestion, cant see Birmingham et al willing to chance playing one more game against a big 4 team when their relegation partners get to play Derby for example. I can see maybe Liverpool and United going for it, and Spurs and Portsmouth, maybe the foreign owned teams of course, but I think there will be enough opposition voices to prevent it happening.

Not to mention FIFA will have to agree and they wont like it, Asia FA are already fed up of English club coming over during the Asian Cup or during WC qualifying games etc and taking the spotlight away from their domestic competitions so cant think they would be too thrilled! Cant have a match in January in Melbourne cause its transfer window time which is then getting effected, you cant play at the end of the season thats much too important a time to waste time pimping the Premiership to foreign fans, its unworkable and stupid and it will never ever happen.

The fact is if you are Asian or Australian etc then you have your own domestic clubs to support if you chose to support an English team will then you have to expect not to get to see them play live without coming to England.... thats life. Each team plays each other twice, once home, once away its simple and fair, we can not change a system, give some teams an advantage over others just to appease foreign fans...selling shirts should not come before the integrity of the premiership.

As I said in the Arsenal thread the day we chant "we won the league in Shanghai" is the day I stop watching Premiership football!

Offline mushi

  • Super Hero!!!!
  • ****
  • Posts: 8,654
Re: Premier League look abroad
« Reply #3 on: 7 February 2008, 20:16:08 »
This must be one of the most lunatic ideas ever to come out of the FA.  As it stands clubs already play far too many games depending on commitments whether they be in the league, FA Cup, Carling Cup, the Champions League and the UEFA Cup and the better the team the more likeliness there is for more games.  Then theres pointless international friendlies where players have to travel all over the world for nothing.  Too many games is already such an issue and the thought of an extra key game played somewhere in the world for the only reason of money is disgusting.

If it were to go ahead it would totally upset the balance of the league.  Playing each team twice both home and away is the fairest way of having a league.  But to then have an extra game in some other country where the win would affect the winner of the league or who is relegated is unfair.  

Hypothetically speaking think of the case of Fulham and Reading.  One has 40 points the other 39 and as it stands it would be Readingto go down, Fulham to stay up.  Then with this extra game, Fulham end up drawing Manchester United and lose and Reading draw I dont know.. Wigan and win.  That would then mean Reading stay up and Fulham go down.  Its completely unfair.  

And what country in their right mind would pay money to hold something like Boro v Newcastle, not many I imagine.  EPL games are shown globally so theres no need to play this extra match upsetting the system in Asia, North or South America.  

The way the League is at the moment its already ripping off the average fan since you need cable/sattelite plus Sky Sports and/or Setanta to see only a handful of games each season.  Ticket prices are just crazy amounts.  The PL is already worth hundred of millions already and this is just another way to make more money.  

Money has already ruined football with clubs being taken over by foreigners who dont have a bloody clue about the game to even the most average of footballers costing millions and the sickening amounts of money players recieve on a weekly basis.

What should be done instead is a major investment in grass roots for the development of the next generation of footballers which is much more important than making a quick buck playing a game in the US or China.

Liverbird

  • Guest
Re: Premier League look abroad
« Reply #4 on: 7 February 2008, 20:21:41 »
What should be done instead is a major investment in grass roots for the development of the next generation of footballers which is much more important than making a quick buck playing a game in the US or China.

I can't stress how much I agree with you there.

~CaRoLyN~

  • Guest
Re: Premier League look abroad
« Reply #5 on: 7 February 2008, 20:59:59 »
^^^ totally agree
This is the biggest load of bollox ive ever heard. i understand it would mean foreign fans can see their team play but its a stupid idea. to make it work fairly each team would have to play each other three times. at home, away and in some random city abroad. if the big teams get easier games it will give them an advantage. Also, having games on the other side of the world in the middle of the season will affect the players energy levels for other games. Why the hell should we take the ENGLISH premier league abroad? if foreign fans care that much about their teams they can come and see them here, at their own stadiums. The commercialisation of football is already ruining the game. the only reason anyone would want to do this is for money. greedy bastards.

Offline toni01

  • Super Hero!!!!!
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,484
  • Gender: Female
Re: Premier League look abroad
« Reply #6 on: 7 February 2008, 21:04:46 »
Do you think you will get to buy the game you want? I mean if I am a Dubai billionaire and am gonna spend millions buying a Premiership match I want some sort of reassurance that I am not going to get stuck with Bolton v Blackburn. If this is the case, what's to stop a Bernard Arnault type figure buying Arsenal v Portsmouth and playing the game in Paris whilst United   V Everton is played in Melbourne or something.

This is seriously flawed, the fans hate it and have petitions on the go already... its never gonna happen!

Offline toni01

  • Super Hero!!!!!
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,484
  • Gender: Female
Re: Premier League look abroad
« Reply #7 on: 8 February 2008, 21:48:54 »
Petition against the 39th game, and the international round of Premiership matches...wont make a blind bit of difference (::lol::) but it will show the Premier League that we as fans don't like the idea! So if you are opposed sign up...

http://www.fsf.org.uk/petitions/no-to-game-39/index.php

Liverbird

  • Guest
Re: Premier League look abroad
« Reply #8 on: 8 February 2008, 22:11:13 »
Thanks for the link Toni.

Signed :)

~CaRoLyN~

  • Guest
Re: Premier League look abroad
« Reply #9 on: 9 February 2008, 01:40:40 »
thanx. signed

Offline toni01

  • Super Hero!!!!!
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,484
  • Gender: Female
Re: Premier League look abroad
« Reply #10 on: 9 February 2008, 16:03:57 »
The Premier League keep on proving they could be better run by trained apes then this bunch of morons. I mean seriously if you are planning on making sweeping changes to the fundamental rules and running of Premiership football, that are protected by a FIFA mandate then maybe would be a smart move to inform FIFA directly rather then then let them hear it through media reports.

Not only is the idea too flawed to ever be passed, they have now upset the egomaniac that is Sepp Blatter, and that alone will ensure this will never come to anything.

Platini was his usual tactful self when commenting on the Gam£ 39 proposal: ?It?s ironic. You already have no English coach, you have no English players and maybe now you will have no clubs playing in England. It?s a joke.?

Offline LadyEm

  • Super Hero
  • *
  • Posts: 1,223
  • Gender: Female
  • This Blue Nose is a CR fan and proud of it!!!
Re: Premier League look abroad
« Reply #11 on: 9 February 2008, 17:50:33 »
NO NO NO NO!

And thats my opinion.

Its going to be more travel for the players who travel enough.

Also on a selfish note, I try and go to every B'ham City match I can both home and away and aboard isnt just away, ITS AWAY!!!

Liverbird

  • Guest
Re: Premier League look abroad
« Reply #12 on: 15 February 2008, 02:05:34 »
bbcsport;
Fifa rejects Premier League plans


The president of football's world governing body Fifa has told the BBC that plans by the Premier League to host games abroad will never happen.
 
Sepp Blatter also warned that the proposal could harm England's attempt to host the 2018 World Cup.

"This does not take into consideration the fans of the clubs and it gives the impression that they just want to go on tour to make some money," Blatter said.

"This will never happen, at least as long as I am the president of Fifa."

Blatter's comments, in an interview with BBC sports editor Mihir Bose, are the strongest from the governing body since the Premier League's plans were revealed last week.

Top-flight clubs will consider plans to extend the season to 39 games with the extra matches taking place overseas.

But the idea has met with resistance in Asia, Europe and fans in England.

Blatter's stance effectively leave the proposals, for a round of games to take place in five different host cities from January 2011, dead in the water.

"The Premier League is richer than the others, they have more responsibility and what they are trying to do is contrary to this responsibility," he said.

"This is something I cannot understand and definitely the Fifa executive committee will not sanction such an initiative."

A Premier League spokesman said the clubs would "look forward to the opportunity to meet with Fifa in order to discuss this matter in full".

"This was always the starting point in relation to the issue of sanction for the proposed international round...and as such we'll be making no comment until after that time," the spokesman added.

Premier League chief executive Peter Scudamore had previously expressed his belief that Fifa could not stop the plan if the clubs receive the go-ahead from England's Football Association.

But Blatter rejected that claim.

"It is not true," he added. "Even if the FA did sanction it, all the national associations receiving these clubs would have to sanction it also. This will be very difficult.

"In addition to that, the Fifa executive committee will apply article two of the Fifa statutes: 'to prevent all methods or practices which might jeopardise the integrity of matches or competitions or give rise to abuse of association football'.

"This is abuse. The rich Premier League is trying to get richer and wants to expand the importance of that league."

There were early signs of Fifa disquiet when it was revealed the governing body had told the Premier League it could not consider the plans until the Football Association had contacted them.

It is understood the FA has held talks with Fifa and is ready to issue a statement distancing themselves from the proposals.

Blatter warned it could affect the FA's bid for the 2018 World Cup.

"When it comes to a decision of the executive committee concerning this matter of the 39th round, and I am sure they will be against it, then it will not have a positive impact on the bid from England for the World Cup in 2018," he added.

Scudamore's plans received a mixed reaction around the world, with the heads of the Asian Football Confederation and Football Federation Australia, which could host any proposed games, rejecting the idea.

The United Arab Emirates Football Association said it would welcome the plan but Uefa boss Michel Platini called it a "nonsense idea".

The proposals were also widely criticised by fans in England and Blatter said he understood their reaction.

"I support the fans 100%," he said. "If I was a fan in England I would say: 'no, please play at home and don't go and exercise your talents abroad'.

"If the plan includes official league matches then, as a fan, I would protest against this."

Fifa will examine the Premier League's proposals at its executive committee meeting on 14 March.
 
.

Liverbird

  • Guest
Re: Premier League look abroad
« Reply #13 on: 15 February 2008, 15:00:47 »
bbcsport;

Premier plan is 'unsustainable' 

 
Former Football Association chief executive David Davies says the Premier League's proposal to play games abroad is "unlikely to survive".

The plan for teams to hold a 39th match in five cities overseas on one weekend from 2011 has been much criticised.

Davies told BBC Radio 5 Live: "The current plan, at least as described in the public domain, is very hard to sustain - it has taken a pounding.

"There wasn't a widespread consultation and the fireworks have gone off."

Sepp Blatter, president of football's world governing body Fifa, told BBC Sport that the plan "will never happen" and warned it could harm any bid by England to host the 2018 World Cup.

Davies said: "I look forward to seeing where my former colleagues at the FA stand on this because, frankly, they have been very quiet up until this point.

"The crux of the problem is can English football act as one, or will its sectional interests break off and go in their own way?"

Davies said he expects the Premier League to revise its proposals in the face of hostility from Blatter and football federations around the globe.

"As I understand it, the plan is a work in progress but there is a perception that it is more than that," he stated.

"There is a team of people within the Premier League who will look at the plan with a view to making it more acceptable.

"But the basic point is if the national associations in Asia, Africa and North America don't want these games then they can put a stop to them."

Davies added the Premier League could yet salvage its plan if it placed less emphasis on its commercial benefits.

"I believe there are people at the League who have more than just financial interests in all of this - they care about the future growth of football," he said.

Meanwhile, Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez has voiced his opposition to the overseas games plan, saying: "To play another game in another country is not right.

"You must play here in England with the same opportunities for every team."
 

Liverbird

  • Guest
Re: Premier League look abroad
« Reply #14 on: 15 February 2008, 19:01:02 »
Wenger backs Premier League plan 
Arsene Wenger has given his backing to the Premier League's proposal to play an extra 10 games abroad... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7246314.stm