Best Player in the World/Big-Games News/Discussion

[danieqt]

But when comparing these two stellar talents, it is important to remember the old adage: ?form is temporary and class is permanent.?

How am I supposed to take that comment in stride?

[shellza]

ronaldo's the best in my eyes, regardless of trophies  lol

[Samia]

The Brazilian has never attempted a step-over in his life because he doesn?t have to. Such circus trickery is beneath him.

the authors is talking about tricks and stepovers like they're cheap thrills. integrating them into competitive games is tough, and ronaldo doesn't HAVE to use them either, but he does so for the CROWD. i certainly don't get the same rush from seeing kaka breeze past players as i get from watching cristiano send a defender the wrong way or pull an elastico.

As for his 20 strikes in 53 games at international level, almost all of them have come against teams such as Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Estonia.

and i guess all of kaka's goals come in crucial matches against top opositions

[jo-2-da-han]

yeah bayern münich is a big team, much bigger that roma...
that pen!! out of this world!

only against small teams? like four against spurs, three against arsenal (the smallest team!), four against portsmouth, and some against everton who's not no4... i could go on if i had time...

holland, poland, greece (i know, but still), croatia?, roma, milan, anyway... cristiano today and cristiano four and two years ago are not the same...

ppl talk about him not scoring against fx liverpool and chelsea, but who was it that made the assist to fletchers winning goal in 2005 and O'shea's goal in 2007 against liverpool 
they make it sound like all teams in italy and spain all play like arsenal and chelsea beside the two top teams in spain and the top team in italy, they play better...

[GEMMABABE]

What the UEFA president is saying is that, for all it?s thrills and spills, the Premier League is not as defensively sophisticated as the equivalent competitions in Spain and Italy.

"If Ronaldo is the best player in the world or Europe he will have to prove it in the Euros, because that will be the only way we can judge him, when all the best players will have had the chance to be recognised," declared Platini.

This is the problem Cristiano has when it comes to these awards, the people that vote for these pointless things rank the premiership at the bottom of the pile when it comes to what leagues are the best esp the part when they are putting the likes of Bolton and Wigan down, yet totally seem to forget that in Spain you have to play the likes of Murcia, Mallorca, Almeria are these teams any better than Bolton?? Same in Italy, Kaka also has to play the likes of Genoa,Torino,Palermo are these any better than Bolton?  Well imo they are not. I am fed up of reading articles that put Cristiano down because he has to play the likes of Bolton. When Nobody mentions that Kaka has to play the likes of Torino. I have always thought the only way that Cristiano has a chance of winning these pointless things is a move to Spain and this article just bares that out.

[Samia]

This is the problem Cristiano has when it comes to these awards, the people that vote for these pointless things rank the premiership at the bottom of the pile when it comes to what leagues are the best esp the part when they are putting the likes of Bolton and Wigan down, yet totally seem to forget that in Spain you have to play the likes of Murcia, Mallorca, Almeria are these teams any better than Bolton?? Same in Italy, Kaka also has to play the likes of Genoa,Torino,Palermo are these any better than Bolton? Well imo they are not. I am fed up of reading articles that put Cristiano down because he has to play the likes of Bolton. When Nobody mentions that Kaka has to play the likes of Torino. I have always thought the only way that Cristiano has a chance of winning these pointless things is a move to Spain and this article just bares that out.

another thing that i've noticed is, a lot of people feel the english overhype their own league and players, and so they develop a dislike for anything english even if some of the players or teams are genuinely good. this bias prolly affected voters when they decided to put messi ahead of ronaldo in the fifa wpoty. tbh, the english kinda brought it upon themselves by declaring every other slightly promising player as the next big thing. i'm not saying other countries don't do the same, but it's just a little more prevelant in england. they've become like the boy who cried wolf...and now england's former hate-figure is having to bear the brunt. either way, cristiano gets the short end of the stick

[ronaldo88]

To be fair if the article complimented Ronaldo more we'd be happy and the Kaka fans would say it's a crap article.

[♥ Majiek ♥]

To be fair if the article complimented Ronaldo more we'd be happy and the Kaka fans would say it's a crap article.

No, it's not a balanced article, saying all of Cristiano's goals are against crap teams, but not mentioning what Kaka's goals are against, which i'm sure are against the crappest teams in Italy, the Champion's League and internationally!

It's blatantly a article to put Cristiano down and praise Kaka... 

The Premiership is the best league in the world and i'm has better defenders then those in Italy and Spain... Gemma made a great point about it..

Also, most players goals are against weaker teams (even the best players ever), if you look at any international scoring record they will mostly be against weaker teams (it's because they play mostly weaker teams to qualify, you can only score against who you play, it's not easy otherwise other players would have better records), but Cristiano has scored against some big teams too, i guess the likes of Holland, Russia (who beat England) and Poland (who finished above Portugal in qualifying) are not big teams huh?  what a moron... all international teams are hard to score against because most of them are organised... what about Italy, they have weaker teams then England, and what about most of Kaka's Champion's League goals last season against the likes of AEK Athens and Anderlecht? yeah, real giants of Europe! 

[GEMMABABE]

This is the problem Cristiano has when it comes to these awards, the people that vote for these pointless things rank the premiership at the bottom of the pile when it comes to what leagues are the best esp the part when they are putting the likes of Bolton and Wigan down, yet totally seem to forget that in Spain you have to play the likes of Murcia, Mallorca, Almeria are these teams any better than Bolton?? Same in Italy, Kaka also has to play the likes of Genoa,Torino,Palermo are these any better than Bolton? Well imo they are not. I am fed up of reading articles that put Cristiano down because he has to play the likes of Bolton. When Nobody mentions that Kaka has to play the likes of Torino. I have always thought the only way that Cristiano has a chance of winning these pointless things is a move to Spain and this article just bares that out.

another thing that i've noticed is, a lot of people feel the english overhype their own league and players, and so they develop a dislike for anything english even if some of the players or teams are genuinely good. this bias prolly affected voters when they decided to put messi ahead of ronaldo in the fifa wpoty. tbh, the english kinda brought it upon themselves by declaring every other slightly promising player as the next big thing. i'm not saying other countries don't do the same, but it's just a little more prevelant in england. they've become like the boy who cried wolf...and now england's former hate-figure is having to bear the brunt. either way, cristiano gets the short end of the stick

Every country overhypes their own league and players not just the English, in the media last year over here there were many over the top Kaka aticles. Voting for Messi over Cristiano just because the people that vote don't like the English is totally unprofessional Kaka won this award because he played TWO games better than Cristiano during the whole season not because people don't like the English, two games what about the rest of the season?? These awards are so pointless now Buffon over Iker what was that all about?? Messi voted second when his team won nothing and the year United won the trebble they gave the award to a Barca player it has nothing to do with football anymore its all about hype and Kaka was hyped more than most last season in EVERY country.

[mrs.federer]

i thought that this discussion was already finished lol but it seems like not, but Gemma today i have to disagree with u, cause eventough i dont like spanish league ( i dont found it as entertaining and organized as the english one) i do think that the teams that are on the middle of the table are quite bit "better" than those who play for the  english league, for example on the english league there is always on the top 4 teams, but on the spanish league among with barça and real madrid theres always different teams fighting for the top 4 , teams like Valencia, Sevilla, Atletico de Madrid, Villarreal...

also those "small teams" also have been won european cups more times than the english teams  and they have been on champions league more often than english teams, for example deportivo la coruña used to be huge years back! and now theyre fighting to keep on "primera" lol

anyway i do foud unfair that people keep saying that Kaká won those "best player" awards because he did just 2 great games over the year, i mean come on, the man have been develop his talent brilliantly over the past 3 years, on the world cup he was the only brazilian who really stand out, his way of play may not be as "spectacular" as Cristiano´s but who cares about that if he scores goals and give good goal passes?

on the other hand i really found unfair that Messi got the seconf place on the Fifa´s award ceremony cause honestly i love Messi, but Cristiano had a much better year than him

[♥ Majiek ♥]

^ and you think that without the top teams in Spain and Italy that the teams are better?  not for me, i think the teams in England have better players and good players in every-team, but opinions, opinions.

[x_kirki17_x]

go ronnie, go ronnie! go, go ronnie!

[Blackice]

I don't think that the English PL is the best League, I know a couple of months ago i said the opposite but i thought about it and I changed my opinion tbh. The EPL depends too much on the Top 4, without the top 4, I do think that many teams are just average tbf. But that is only my personal opinion. There are no surprises, there are always the same key players who are dominating the press. That's not the case in Spain from my point of view. Yes, the pace is probably higher in England and foreign players who have the skills and the technique are mixing this with the roughness which they have learned from English Players but if you look at the technique, La Liga is more attractive. So i guess, they are even or La Liga might be slightly better. I think the reason why many footballers want to play in England has nothing to do with the attractiveness but more because of money.

  La Liga better than EPL? no wayyyy,not for me and many many others.
ok,spanish league is about technical abilities,fancy tricks,joga bonito and all this shit but EPL is much harder,it's tough for the flair players to really succeed in England,unlike in La Liga defenders don't take shit from them,if you try to trick your way past them,they'll attempt to snap your legs in two,defenders and referees in Spain seem to like indulging all those fancy players,they enjoy more freedom to express their abilities and talent than the players in England,I really would like to see some of those top players from La Liga try their strength in the EPL,I know Messi,for example,would probably be a success in any league in the world,but even in Spain he often picks up injuries,me thinks in the EPL he'd spend the majority of the season on the treatment table. The pace in Premiership is also higher(but I see you already mentioned it).
And the diving in La Liga,it seems, is seen as a normal thing to do,a part of the game that is condoned there.

And there are many prem teams outside the "big four" or should I say "big three"(I'd exclude Liverpool from it cause they seem no more than a cup team nowadays) that are good sides which can cause lots of trouble for the big guns.

[jo-2-da-han]

^^ top three yeah..

i wouls love to see messi play in the EPL too, for the same reasons as you

[♥ Majiek ♥]

^^ I agree Hiena.

Alot of players from the Spanish league come over to England and flop, that's not a coincidence...