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« Reply #270 on: 10 September 2006, 05:27:44 »
a really good video of him

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« Reply #271 on: 10 September 2006, 07:02:54 »
i love it lol thanx for posting the song is cool ;D

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Re: Robin Van Persie
« Reply #272 on: 15 September 2006, 04:07:13 »
OMG! He might not play in the Arsenal vs. Man U game on saturady Im so sad  :'(, he injured his hip  :(

some pics
 aww Robin and Cesc

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LOL  ::lol::


from the last game, 2 or 3 days ago I think
sorry the pics are small I dont know how the get them big from getty images  ???
is this where he hurt his hip?  I couldnt watch the game  :(


Cristiano has the same pic  ::lol:: :D


him and his temper again, lol and
 Henry is always pulling him away from the refs  :P
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Re: Robin Van Persie
« Reply #273 on: 15 September 2006, 14:24:57 »
your pics is very nice thx...
so sad he can't play the game vs MANU

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« Reply #274 on: 15 September 2006, 21:15:18 »
Robin van Persie is desperate to be fit to play Real Madrid on
 
 
Friendships are often formed between people thrown together. At a school in Rotterdam one misbehaving kid was excluded from class almost daily. So often was he sent to stand in the corridor that he bonded with the school janitor. Robin van Persie was 14 at the time and Sietje Moush, the caretaker, in his 40s, but they grew to be mates. Moush is Dutch-Moroccan like Bouchra, the girl who became Van Persie's "best friend" - and wife. Moush would keep Van Persie out of trouble. "If you're 15, 16, 17, it's a difficult age. You start wanting to go out, to clubs or whatever, but my friend made sure I never did. He'd say, 'Those places are rubbish', and I believed it. He was smart," Van Persie says. He committed himself to football and even school discipline improved. "When I was sent out it was never because I yelled at the teacher or used bad words. I was more the wise guy, taking the piss. I always had something to say back to the teacher, which I'm sure was frustrating for them, but I always had respect."

So he was not - is not - a real rebel. Twelve months ago he may have struggled to make that argument. It's a year ago this week that Van Persie incurred one of the dumber sending-offs in Premiership history when, in a crucial game against Southampton, with Arsenal still contending for the title, he was warned by Arsène Wenger at half-time to be careful because he'd been booked. What did he do? Went straight out and got a second yellow card for lunging at Graeme Le Saux. Southampton fought back from 1-0 down to draw and Wenger did not conceal his wrath. He told Van Persie to take a look at himself and decide what he was about. "He didn't shout or say I was wrong. He just opened up a question," the player recalls. "He said, 'If you want to go to the top level, you have to change something'. I said, 'Okay, what?' He said, 'I'm not telling you, find out for yourself'. So I went away and asked myself what I wanted from football. The manager was very clever. He thought if he told me what I needed I might forget it in one week, but if I figured it out myself, maybe it would take longer, but it would stay in my mind. I matured. I decided from then on I'd do everything to be successful, go to training and watch how the older players do it, become a lot more professional than before."

Arsenal's 2-0 defeat against Chelsea in December provided evidence of Dutch reformation. "I scored a goal that was disallowed (for offside) but it was a 100% goal and I was disappointed. When they scored their second at that moment, I felt very frustrated. I was thinking, 'If the ball is between me and another player, I will make the tackle very hard'. But then I thought, 'Don't do that'. I was on a yellow card already and a red card would have made things more difficult. 'Take it easy, just play, that's the only way you can get Chelsea back', I thought. A year before I'd have made the bad tackle." The Southampton indiscretion came when Van Persie was still struggling to shake off the troublemaker tag given him by Bert van Marwijk, his former coach at Feyenoord, and he admits a year ago he found himself "at a turning point". He chose the right path to such an extent Wenger now believes he can be a saviour. Though Van Persie was unable to play in a closed-doors match against Reading on Thursday at which Wenger wanted to test his fitness, the manager is holding on to a small hope he might make a comeback against Real Madrid.

Van Persie has nursed a broken toe since his right foot was trod upon against Cardiff on January 7, and though he subsequently scored a gorgeous free kick against Wigan and took part in two further games, he has been rested since playing against West Ham on February 1, his foot so painful that a week ago he was unable to wear football boots even after cutting a gap in one to make room for his toe. At 22, he was playing his best football for Arsenal before his lay-off, winning player of the month for November and scoring eight goals in eight games. "It's frustrating because the way I was feeling I wanted to play five matches a week, I felt I could take on anyone. Then I'm stopped because of a stupid injury. To return in the Bernabeu is not just a target but a mission. It would be one of the biggest games in my life. I'm working very hard to play because there's a double thing, for me, with Madrid."

This harks back to one of the several unhappy episodes he endured under Van Marwijk, who treated him with extra-harsh discipline. Van Marwijk believed it would keep a young star in check but it proved the wrong approach to take with somebody as independently minded as Van Persie and destructive for player, coach and club. When Van Persie and Arjen Robben were teenagers, Johan Cruyff picked Van Persie as the greater talent, Holland's best youngster in a generation. Yet when the pair moved to England as 20-year-olds in 2004, PSV Eindhoven were able to recoup £12m for Robben, Feyenoord just £2.75m for Van Persie. It was because of how Van Marwijk had talked down Van Persie's reputation and the fact that the player had refused to sign a longer contract because of relations with his club.

Van Persie, then 18, was in the Feyenoord side which beat Borussia Dortmund in the 2002 Uefa Cup final but was dropped when Feyenoord faced Real Madrid in the Super Cup. Three days earlier Van Marwijk had taken issue with Van Persie's body language when he was asked to warm up as a substitute in a Champions League qualifier in Istanbul. While Feyenoord stayed in Turkey to fly to Monaco for the Super Cup the next day, Van Persie was ordered straight home to Holland. "Feyenoord took Real Madrid away from me very, very rudely," says Van Persie, "and that's why I want to play on Tuesday. Imagine you're 19, you're only a few months as a professional and they do that to you. Real were the best in the world then, the biggest test for a footballer, and it was my dream to play against Zinedine Zidane. He's such an amazing footballer, his first touch, his vision. I have big respect for him, more than for Beckham."

Arsenal need Van Persie to make the game. They have slumped since his injury troubles started and his importance was demonstrated against Liverpool in midweek when the only way Wenger's players could devise getting the ball to Thierry Henry was via the head of the gangling Emmanuel Adebayor. Henry, Freddie Ljungberg and Robert Pires need a different kind of pivot for their counter-attacking runs to revolve round - Adebayor is only 'the new Kanu' after all. Wenger has always seen in Van Persie another Dennis Bergkamp. Van Persie's eyes shine whenever Bergkamp is introduced to the conversation - usually by him. "To be compared with Dennis embarrasses me. During my Feyenoord time one guy played ahead of me and I thought I could be more important to the team than him but I have never, not once, had that feeling when Dennis is playing. My feeling is he's a much better player than me. If he plays instead of me I accept it. I think if I was a manager I would play Dennis every match. What he's done for 15, 16 years - you can't compare my story to his."

Excitedly he tells how he and Bouchra went for dinner last week with Bergkamp and his wife, Henrita. "You should listen to him, he's clever. He thinks about football every day. I'm really fortunate to learn from a guy like that. He has no ego. He has everyone's respect because of his charisma and the young guys on the training pitch - he has us eating out of his hand." The naughty schoolboy in Van Persie can still emerge. "Sometimes in training on purpose I'll pass it really hard at him. 'Oh, sorry Dennis'. And he's got such skill he kills the ball! Doesn't even look at it! Doesn't notice! At Feyenoord some older players took it easy and as a young guy you think, 'Today my knee is hurting so I'll not go hard'. Here there's no chance of that. You see Dennis, Thierry or Robert always giving 100%."

He is not exactly like Bergkamp, though. They share an instinct to drop off a main striker, get on the ball and shape a game, but there is more emphasis in Bergkamp's play upon team movement and the killer pass, in Van Persie's on dribbling and individual expression. He may have his parents to thank for that. Both are artists. José Ras, his mother, is a painter and jewellery designer who also teaches children with special needs. Bob, his father, is a sculptor who specialises in using discarded newspapers and other waste materials to construct football crowd scenes and has just completed a special commission - a giant frieze for his son's new house in Enfield.

After his parents divorced it was Bob he lived with, growing up in an artist's den. "When I was younger my parents encouraged me to be creative, to draw and play games to expand my mind. They wanted me to be an individual. But it turned out I'm rubbish with my hands." Perhaps what he does with his feet reflects his family's creative streak. "Hmm, I don't think so . . . maybe a bit." Van Persie believes he was more influenced by the football he played in Kralingen, the working-class, multi-ethnic area of Rotterdam where he spent his boyhood. "My left foot is definitely from the streets. Football can be like art. For example, when I'm playing I can really enjoy the football game, the noise, colours. To play for a big club in a great stadium, that's beautiful, very beautiful."

Van Marwijk's criticisms sparked negative press coverage of Van Persie in which even his parents were targeted. "They took my dad and painted him very black. I was 19, I'd just come into the real world, and it was hard. Then a few months later, when I had a good period again, I thought, 'These people who absolutely hammered me are writing great things about me again', and since then I haven't cared what they say. That's why I don't give many interviews. Holland's a different country to England. When Dennis was playing fantastically for Holland, still people were saying bad things. Why do Dutch people look for the negative? Now I don't even bother about what they're writing." Van Persie's dislike for the press has only deepened since he spent two weeks in a Rotterdam police cell last summer after allegations made by a former beauty queen. He was released without charge but the 100% support he enjoyed from Arsenal at the time was not replicated in the media. He recently signed a new contract tying him to Arsenal until 2011. "Talks were over in two days, it was very easy, I wanted to stay and show faith in the club. It was a sort of thank-you for what Arsenal have done. They stood by me and believed me, and showed their support. It's a big family here. I have the feeling some other clubs do not have this atmosphere."
Bergkamp, who leaves at the end of this season, may not be the only senior player absent when the club moves to Ashburton Grove. These are uncertain times not seen before during Wenger's reign, but Arsenal have at least one optimist. "Dennis going will be difficult but when you lose big players like Patrick Vieira, that's football. You can speak about it all day long but it's football. If most of our group, especially the young players, can stay together, there'll be a big future for Arsenal. I had a chat with a friend about it. He said, 'Ah, it's not going so well', and I said, 'Wait, give it two years'." Arsenal, though, could do with their form back - and Van Persie - in two days' time
 
 
 

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« Reply #275 on: 15 September 2006, 21:16:11 »
Rob Green: Why did you want to come to England and why did you choose Arsenal?

I had a few options. I had to make a decision because I wanted to play as a second striker but I was playing on the left wing for Feyenoord. PSV wanted me and Sevilla in Spain, but it was an easy decision to join Arsenal because everyone in Holland and all the world knows about them.

John Hick: How has Dennis Bergkamp helped you settle in?

He has taught me a lot because of the way he trains and thinks about the game. For me, he is a genius.

Matt Simms: How does it feel to be training with a elite selection of talent?

In Holland I find that there are a few good players, maybe four or five. But at Arsenal there are eight or nine, or even 20 players that I can learn from.

Aaron: What is your best position and what are your strong points?

I feel that I am a second striker but I can also play as a left winger when the boss needs me there. My heading is quite strong. When I was young I trained with a professional coach and trained on my right leg and my head. I scored four or five goals with my head for Feyenoord.

Jaqueline: What is the biggest difference between Arsenal and Feyenoord as clubs?

In everything there is a difference. For example, in the training complex we have 11 fields but there is only one in Holland, near to the stadium. It is professional in Holland but everything here is even more professional.

Josh: How hard is it to get past Sol, Kolo and Ashley?

It is very hard! The boss joked with me when I arrived that if I can get past Sol and Kolo then I can play in the squad! He said that I must train for the first three or four months and I think it is going well. It is a bit frustrating not to play more because everyone wants to play, but this is the way it is while I settle.

Bashan: What is it like to be compared to Dennis Bergkamp?

I think it lifts me because in Holland Dennis is one of the greatest players ever. They talk about how fantastic he is and I am glad when people say I can be like him. Two months someone gave me a tape of him and I watched it - it was amazing, he can do everything.

Annina: What's the best goal you've ever scored?

For Feyenoord against Vitesse Arnhem at home. It was a long cross from a defender and I hit it first time from the air, so it was a fantastic goal.

Chris, Twickenham: Tell us about the cage football you played in Holland?

I was four or five when I first played and from the age of seven to 14 or 15 we played every day. Then I was at Feyenoord so they asked me to do it a little slower. There were lots of games and it was a fantastic time for me. I think my technique and my strength with my left foot came from there.

Warren: Which other young players really impress you?

I like Nigel de Jong at Ajax, he is a very good defender and he likes England too, so maybe in a few years we will see him over here. Also I like Cristiano Ronaldo at Manchester United, he is very confident.

Perry, London: How much more physical is the English league than Dutch league?

I can give you an example. I played my first match against Barnet but only the first half. But I was totally broke because it was a higher level for me, even though Barnet are in a lower league. I played 90 minutes at Feyenoord without a problem but it is very different here. But it helps you if you train with guys like Sol, Ashley and Thierry.

Chris, Canvey Island: How did the Feyenoord fans take to you leaving the club?

They were disappointed but they were also happy that I didn't go to PSV Eindhoven. They wouldn't have liked that because the Feyenoord fans don't like PSV or Ajax.

Richard, South Africa: Who is your best friend at Arsenal?

In the beginning it was Jermaine Pennant, he was very nice to me from day one. He is a funny guy and is always making jokes. What I like most about my team-mates is that they are very nice to me, they are sociable and help with everything. If you ask for something they will get it for you. Everyone is laughing and likes each other here, it is like one big family.

Hugh: Who has the worst taste in clothes at Arsenal?

This week Freddie Ljungberg came in with a big floppy hat and everyone made jokes about it. Pennant went to the CD player and put a Bob Marley track on!

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« Reply #276 on: 15 September 2006, 21:17:20 »
Robin's dreamteam
 
 
Goalkeeper - Gianluigi Buffon
A fantastic goalkeeper. I've seen alot of him on television and he makes some tremendous saves. For me he's the number one in the world at the moment.

Right-back - Cafu
For me I've chosen him for the same reasons that I chose Carlos. He's got plenty of power and speed for a full back, and is a good defender too.

Centre-back - Kolo Toure
The same as Sol. He came over from Ivory Coast a couple of years ago and to be a regular for Arsenal and to play at this level every week so soon after joining shows what a player he is.

Centre-back - Sol Campbell
I train with him of course and for me he's an animal. He is so strong and he destroys his opponents. Very difficult to play against.

Left-back - Roberto Carlos
A strong powerful defender with a lot of speed. Good to watch as well.

Midfield - Garrincha
Up until a couple of years ago I had never heard of him. My faher took me to watch a film of him and he was amazing. He used the same move to go outside a player, always went outside, and always got past him. A great player.

Midfield - Pactrick Vieira
Pactrick has to be in the midfield. I train with him everyday so I see up close what he is capable and how important he is to the team.

Midfield - Zinedine Zidane
Everybody knows about Zidane. His first touch is incredible and he reads the game so well. A great player.

Midfield - Diego Maradona
One of the first names I put down. I've watched a lot of tapes of him. Although I'm a different player to him, he's exactly the sort of player I love to watch.

Forward - Johan Cruyff
He's on the same video I have with Maradona on it. I love the way he plays the game, the movements and actions he has. The first name I chose and another excellent player.

Forward - Ronaldo
At his best he's a great striker. It's enjoyable to watch a player like him in action because he plays the game how I think it should be played.



 
 

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« Reply #278 on: 15 September 2006, 22:09:47 »
robinho_#1  those avatars are awesome!! good job =)

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« Reply #279 on: 15 September 2006, 22:27:19 »
robinho_#1 I love the avatars, I saved some if thats ok ;)

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Re: Robin Van Persie
« Reply #280 on: 15 September 2006, 22:35:01 »
"Also I like Cristiano Ronaldo at Manchester United, he is very confident."
Good answer ;D

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« Reply #281 on: 15 September 2006, 22:36:49 »
"Also I like Cristiano Ronaldo at Manchester United, he is very confident."
Good answer ;D

aww ;)

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Re: Robin Van Persie
« Reply #282 on: 16 September 2006, 03:24:07 »
grrrr Im so jelous
btw. how long has his wife been pregnanat?

not to be mean but I think that he is too hot for her, but I guess hes happy with her  :D


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« Reply #283 on: 16 September 2006, 03:44:03 »
just lookat those muscles!The girllooks old likeshes in her 40s!she looks like a witch from russian tale called Baba yaga!lol

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« Reply #284 on: 16 September 2006, 13:17:43 »